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What is RealCosts?
Talk about the “hidden” costs for bank accounts, telephone services, home ownership, or other things that ended up costing more then it seemed it should.  Give your opinions here of how you feel ripped off, how a service sucks, or other consumer complaints.  RealCosts is an outlet for business behavior that seems to be in bad faith.  Though you may believe that there was fraud, corruption, or other illegal behavior, often you can only prove bad ethics.  Let other people know.

An area that is hitting me personally is the cost of being handicapped.  Before I was forced to use a wheelchair, I would play $5 slots at a casino in upper Michigan.  However, the $5 slot machines have been isolated up three stairs on a platform.  I can not drive my electric wheelchair up three stairs!  For the past two years I have complained and waited for a response.  Perhaps they wanted me to get so upset that I would tell the entire world!

See Handicapped not wanted at Chip-In's Casino Chip-In's Island Resort and Casino for more information.  Why couldn't they at least respond and give me an excuse?  Ignoring me makes me feel that either they have no compassion or think the handicapped are not worth being their customers.  If I do eventually hear an excuse, it will have to be a whopper to explain why they did nothing for over two years!

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Links - See what people are saying*  * Disclaimer
Select - Services, Business, Education, Government, or  other issues.
Note:  Links starting with a $ are on the RealCosts forum, otherwise they are elsewhere.
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Government:
legal system:
. Real costs of mental illness - money wasted on bigotry against the mentally ill
rules
. Real Cost of Regulation - higher?
taxes
. Taxes in Toledo, Ohio - they are fixing roads that don't need fixing

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Services:
banking
overview
. Been Ripped-Off By A Bank Charging Outrageous Overdraft Fee, Fight Back at: www.bankfees.info
. Battle over bank fees: padding, or real cost?
Charter One bank
. I feel that I was ripped off by Charter One Bank! *(bottom of this page)
. Charter One Bank privacy/security hole
. Rev Al Sharpton leads demo against Charter One Bank lending practices
. Pinchot v. Charter One Bank, F.S.B., 2003-Ohio-4122
other banks
. Chase Manhattan Bank Sucks
. Citizens Bank Sucks
. Cross Country Bank - Sucks!
. Fifth Third Bank Sucks!
credit cards
. What paying with plastic really costs
. Are they a rip off?:  FastCashCard.com, EquityOneAuto.com, ExpressGoldCard.com, UnitedCashLoans.com, LexingtonLaw.com
computer service
. CompUSA sucks
. Dell sucks
. Sony Customer Support Sucks
insurance
. Unauthorized State Farm Feedback/Complaints Website
internet costs
. AOLwatch.org - Does AOL keep charging after you quit?
. Earthlink Customer Service Sucks
. PayPal Sucks - an anti paypal site to expose the nightmare of doing business "the paypal way."
telephone service
. The Real Cost of Dialing 10-10-987
. Sprint Sucks - experiences with Sprint
$ VarTec Telecom, Inc., claimed $30 a month and charged $45 *(Var Tec Telecom?)
other services
. Bally Total Fitness Sucks
$ Dating


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Business:
shipping
. Real cost of surcharges (fright)
. United Parcel Service Sucks - UPS hidden practices, customs brokerage


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Education:
college
. Loans better than "work to pay"?
private schools
. Real Cost Of Private Schools - less expensive?

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Other Issues:
cost of ownership
. Protect your investment with Total Cost of Ownership
saving money
. The Real Costs of Driving Alone
pets
. Everyone should spay and neuter their pets.
vehicles
. Ford Service Sucks
. MyCarSucks.com - Keep your old clunker or buy a new car?
. BMWlemon.com - The unofficial BMW Lemon Site
computer viruses
. virus e-mail - Swen/Gibe.F virus
issues that "suck"
. Sucks500.com - "A place where all people can get together and vent."
products that "suck"
. BadProducts-n-Stuff.com

E-mail:    Mike@nicemike.com

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I feel that I was ripped off by Charter One Bank! *
Charter One Bank “upgraded” my debit card to a “MegaRewards” debit card that I did not want or ask for, complete with a yearly $15 fee!  As a result of receiving this unauthorized new card, I confused it with another card, and ended up with three overdraft charges.  Back and forth I have asked for a refund on the unauthorized "MegaRewards" and also the three overdraft charges.  In the process I have discovered many things about Charter One Bank, which makes me believe that Charter One Bank Sucks!  Click here for Charter One Bank's * website: CharterOne.com


My Discover Card went from 13.74% to 18.49% unexpectedly *
What a surprise to see your rate go up significantly from one statement to the next.  When I received my statement on Oct. 15th, 2004, my rate had gone up from 13.74% to 18.49%.  I never went over my limit, and was never late, so why did it go up so much?  When I called, "Wendy" from the Arizona customer service center said that "you were sent a notice in August".  Ever since another company raised my rate, and I had did not notice their notice, I have been careful to examine every change in terms that I get.  I do not have a copy of any change from Discover Card.

Wendy from the Discover Card service center said that the notice allowed me to "opt out", make my card inactive, and pay it off at the lower rate.  If I had received the notice, I would have opted out.  So, I asked about opting out now and paying off the card at the lower interest rate.  Wendy said that it was too late, that the offer ended at the beginning of October.  She said that there was nothing more that she could do.

Here is their website:  DiscoverCard.com

I will still try to get them to act in good faith.  They can not expect that the mail is a reliable means of notification, because I have received neighbor's mail on several occasions.  My relatives experience similar problems with misdirected mail.  If your mail is delivered to the wrong address, and they think it is "junk mail" and throw it away, is this reliable?

Why not allow me to "opt out" once I see my rate go up?  By failing to accommodate my request, I do not plan to use any Discover service again.  I will pay off my card and remember it as a bad experience with another company which did not care if I was a customer.



Does VarTec Telecom Suck? I believe that VarTec Telecom Sucks! *

I switched from SBC at $35 to $40 a month (including long distance) for a claimed $30 by VarTec Telecom, Inc. (including long distance), and was billed for $45 a month!  True their basic charge was $29.95, but they also charged these additional costs:

Federal USF Reimbursement                  $ 1.31
Relay Service Charge                       $ 0.02
FCC Approved Line Charge - Primary Line    $ 6.50
Local Number Portability Fee               $ 0.28
FCC Approved Line Charge - Additional Line $ 7.00
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******************* Total extra charges = $ 15.11
SBC's basic charge was only $ 23.12 (including fees!) plus additional long distance charges.  The advantage of VarTec Telecom was claimed to be the 200 minutes of free long distance calling time included with the plan.  They did not mention the extra $15.11 in fees!

It appears that they can legally charge the Primary Line fee, but I am not sure about the Additional Line fee.  The operators at VarTec Telecom seemed to think that it was for an additional line that I do not have, and said that they were removing it on 9-17-03.  However, on my next bill dated 9-25-03 the Additional Line Charge fee was still there - and they did not refund the previous fees as they had told me!

Instead of putting up with this BS, I have changed back to SBC today, 10-02-03.  I believe that VarTec Telecom Sucks!  I guess that I will be lucky to get back any of the "Additional Line" fees.

If you want VarTec Telecom's official website:   www.vartec.com

Why does it seem that banks and telephone companies hide the real costs of their services?  I have been screwed by both, and would sooner not give either of them any business if I could avoid it.  It seems that a better bank or phone company is simply the least of available evils.  In my experience, the ethics of either sucks!



We received an offer in the mail for FastCashCard.com, which claimed "No Fees, No Charges and No Obligations of any kind."  It sounded like a scam or similar rip off, so I did some checking.  The website did not not discuss actual fees or costs, so it appears that they are at least suckering you in to applying - with what ever risks that implies.  Then I discovered the other following sites that appear to be connected with FastCashCard.com (at least they shared the same pop-up ad).  If anyone has any information please leave a post in the RealCosts forum, or e-mail me.

What are the real costs of the following services?:
. FastCashCard.com
. EquityOneAuto.com
. ExpressGoldCard.com
. UnitedCashLoans.com
. LexingtonLaw.com

Pop-up ad for the above sites


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